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From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby jd26 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:06 pm

Hey all,

So I have been a member of this forum for 7 years, but I am still yet to own a roadster :oops:

In a predicament at present.. I am running a b6 A4 Avant in s line 190bhp quattro flavour.. but as usual I have the MR2 itch..

I have two options... Keep the avant as a long term project and try to pull some extra power from it to fully exploit the Quattro and have a bit of a 'sleeper' so to speak..

Or, Chop it in and potentially bag myself an MR2 along with some change in my pocket..

The OH has a 'practical' car now, so I potentially have more scope than usual...

Anyone come across from cars such as mine and able to offer experience? Part of me is worried that in a few years I'll look back and regret selling a practical (slightly) spritely wagon ... Or are you all in your mr2s years and years on with no regrets ?

I feel like I'm just looking for more reasons to warrant making the change :lol:

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby JoeCool » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:13 pm

The MR2 will feel slow in a straight line. It will be a billion times more fun in the bends.

If it were me, I'd be thinking along the lines of -

If I like fast and want a wagon because they are handy, swap the 1.8t quarter for an S4 avant. (no point tuning a more basic model when the manufacturers made a quicker one for you anyway).

If I want a change, something with zero practicality but maximum driver enjoyment, find a decent MR2 roadster.

Such chalk and cheese options, it really lies with you knowing what floats your boat.
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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby wotugonado » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:20 pm

jd26 wrote:Hey all,

So I have been a member of this forum for 7 years, but I am still yet to own a roadster :oops:


Wow that's some hardcore lurking :shock:
I think you know the answer to your question otherwise why be on here for so long, you won't regret it, you may want more power eventually but you wont regret it.
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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby Treboeth » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:40 pm

wotugonado wrote:
jd26 wrote:Hey all,

So I have been a member of this forum for 7 years, but I am still yet to own a roadster :oops:


Wow that's some hardcore lurking :shock:
I think you know the answer to your question otherwise why be on here for so long, you won't regret it, you may want more power eventually but you wont regret it.


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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby delhusband » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:03 am

Funny, I owned a b6 A4 2.5 tdi after owning my first roadster . Needed more practicality, couldn't justify two cars. Big time regrets for quite a few years over that move. Not that Audi was bad, just nowhere near as much fun.
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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby Stewart@Boro » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:52 am

7 years membership and only 11 posts, I'm surprised you have survived the Autumn pruning :lol:

Having had a 2l turbo diesel at the same time as owning my roadster the roadster provided much more fun, although the diesel did take a few people by surprise :wink:
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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby Nvy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:02 am

So from somebody who has 2 cars at the moment - Civic 2.2 cTdi remapped to 220 hp and the new addition to the family Mr2 - i can say some things. I have the car for 2 weeks now.

1. Mr feels slow in straight line by a lot, the civic is shredding tires and getting up to 100 mph takes no time.
2. Mr stops a lot better i guess this is because of the weight and 50/50.
3. Once on the go Mr feels sharper and easier to turn. although my civic is heavily modified its pretty close but the Mr feels better coz of the lower center of gravity - less body roll is present.
4. Mr - Rigidity of the chassy - if the Mr has no under braces(before 2003 facelift) it will feel lose a lot. Lots of rattles and cheap plastic even in the trim that i have.
5. Mr - Suspension wise its great and with the right setup the "snap over steer" will not be present. I'm on TTE springs and i quite like the ride.

That being said i love my Mr2 and for a weekend warrior is an awesome car but I think ill need to either turbo charge or get engine swapped in to be happy with the power. The civic has lots of tq coz of the turbo and getting up to speed feels so free. If u want to switch it will take some get used to i guess.

P.S. I know i cant compare turbo and NA but this is what op is asking.

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby Bossworld » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:30 am

Mum currently owns a B6 Avant (1.9 TDI 130) and having had custody of my MR2 for a week, decided to buy an MR2 for herself a few months back.

So to answer your question...

I was down at mum's recently (drove the 150 miles in my '2) and used her A4 a few times for errands. I have to say I think they're still superb for motorway lugging but it doesn't feel as responsive as I remember 10 years ago. That said, the pickup from 60-80 on the motorway still feels effortless in comparison to either my 2 or my Mini Countryman Cooper S, so I suspect you'd find the same comparison with your 1.8T.

The handling difference of the '2 over my Cooper S has to be felt to believed (and even the Cooper S is comically good at cornering for such a big car), but going round corners in the A4 feels even more detached than that. The Cooper S is 184bhp and turbo'd so probably a similar comparison to your A4 - I miss the turbo urgency when in the MR2, but it pulls well in 2nd and 3rd through the rev range, and the lack of weight means you never feel particularly slow.

Mum and stepdad both had B6 1.9 TDIs although he totalled his in an accident a couple of years back. Bought another (this time automatic) as they like them that much, but for all their reliability (on 180k and 80k respectively), they've spent quite a lot of money keeping them on the road. Seems as though daft things like the position of the electronics is prone to water ingress, then standard bits like turbos, bearings, suspension have ramped up the cost in recent years. That said, unless you've got the earliest of the B6s, it's not as though an MR2 will be much newer.

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby shnazzle » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:50 am

I'll just throw in there that my mr2 (stock-ish) kept up with our 3.0tdi v6 up to somewhere around 70mph :)
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You will miss the torque that the MR2 simply does not have.

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby jd26 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:38 pm

Haha hands up I am clearly the biggest lurker on the site, ever since sitting in a sable roadster in a showroom all those years ago I have occasionally hankered for one and come crawling back.

Appreciate it's a really random post so the replies are awesome and appreciated, a friend of mine has recently obtained an NC 2.0 "car with engine in wrong place", which I blame for the sudden relapse into MR2 longing...

The Audi is a lovely example, but sadly due a cambelt & service imminently, just after 4 new Goodyear rubbers on each corner which suddenly has me thinking as an enjoyable performance car (if I did get more power from it) am I off the mark..

I imagine the spritely little Mr two would be far lighter on tyre and brake use? Along with the *hope* that it would be a car that I could potentially look at learning some absolute basics about maintenance myself on..? Not got any previous knowledge of tinkering other than the odd filter / induction kit / stereo fitting.. but most cars are a bit complex to bother with yourself..

Chain driven being a huge plus too..

I feel being a bit of an Audi guy I've been spoilt interior wise.. but the better halfs new wagon is also an Audi so I'm thinking best of both worlds :lol:

I've owned an ep3, 182, clk, 330ci amongst other things so do miss the more fun aspect....

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby Justin.D » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:48 pm

jd26 wrote: Along with the *hope* that it would be a car that I could potentially look at learning some absolute basics about maintenance myself on..? Not got any previous knowledge of tinkering other than the odd filter / induction kit / stereo fitting.. but most cars are a bit complex to bother with yourself..


You wouldn't be the first to have this attitude. I'm happy tinkering with bits on my MR2 (owned since May this year) that I would never have considered on previous cars. The Other Stu will surely be along soon to explain his journey with the tinkering (Ahem, rebuilding :lol:)

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby KTM_RIDER » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:51 am

I've owned quite a few Turbo VAGs - Octavia / Fabia / Passat / T4 Van.

All TDI diesels admittedly, but I think I get the lingering appeal of your Audi as they all share attributes that make for a satisfying long term ownership experience (beautifully engineered / styling that never dates / great engines / massive spares availabilty etc etc.) - making them difficult to part with...........

The 2004 Passat (1.9 130TDI PD) I was driving May / June this year before getting my third (that's a clue right there as to which way this is going :wink: ) MR2 in July, so I think I can do a fairly relevant comparison.

Compared to the MR2, the Passat has a grin inducingly potent engine and the rest of the car is decent enough to let you enjoy it (if hardly exciting). Straight off idle, just touch the accelerator and enjoy the drama as the nose of the car lifts and a big wave of torque surges the car forward all the way to a court appearance if you don't keep a beady eye on the speedo. This really is my issue with modern - era VAGS, it seems the only way they can make most of them even slightly fun, is by fitting an engine that regularly tempts you straight onto a speed awareness course (or worse). The MR2 could not be more different, but then it is a bit like comparing a tank and a go - kart.................

Step into (or actually half fall into) the MR2 and it's just a grin inducing car !!! (and the engine is decent enough to let you enjoy it !)

On my regular work commute (NSL rural road with long straights and regular oncoming traffic) the Passat inspired a bit more overtaking confidence, but in reality the MR2 seems to get past traffic just a quickly, it is just that there is no fuss or drama - because it's something that ISN'T there (about half a tonne of mass) that gets the job done. Get to the (90 degree) bends and the MR2 handling is phenomenal - the Passat is erm, reasonably satisfying for a big car :)

Switch to a roadie and yes you will be dropping circa 50bhp, but as you will also be shedding about half a tonne in mass the Roadie will have a better power to weight ratio :wink:

So in short, buy an MR2 and I cannot for the life of me imagine why on earth you'd regret selling your Audi, as you'll be having far too much fun.

This video "10 things I love about my MR2" sums up the appeal of these cars very well IMHO. Item 9 on his list (the traction off the line) followed by item 6 (the handling) is huge fun just at 25mph in town at traffic lighted T junctions - feel the instant traction as you gas it away from the lights, then turn the wheel and marvel at the ease that the car changes direction :D :D :D

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Re: From 1.8t to MR2?

Postby delhusband » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:37 am

+1 what KTM_RIDER said :D
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