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Re: RE: Re: My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Postby shnazzle » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:18 pm

jonbill wrote:What are you hoping the colder plugs will do?

Nothing. Just experimenting
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Re: My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Postby shnazzle » Thu May 04, 2017 10:10 am

When the new throttle body went in the WOT voltage changed for my open loop trickery. Was only sending 88%. Pulled well and fueled well but figured, do it right. So I upped the voltage and noticeably lost power and fueling went off again. So put it back to 88% and all was good again. Odd. I guess the 88% throttle part of the Toyota map is a particularly strong area :)
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Re: My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Postby shnazzle » Fri May 12, 2017 6:09 pm

Not bad for a 12 year old car that sees a lot of high revs.

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Postby shnazzle » Tue May 16, 2017 10:49 pm

Added some "fun fueling" to my map to promote some pops and bangs on overrun :)... Just for fun hehehe.
It's gotta be done.
Is it good? No.
Is it efficient? No.
Does it make me smile?...every damn time
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Re: My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Postby Redjay » Fri May 19, 2017 10:08 am

shnazzle wrote:Still no ill effects of the colder plugs.
Really shouldn't need it, and to be fair it ran very well without them. But it has changed the engine note a bit. I wonder if it's worse or better as far as actual combustion :)
I guess I'll never know until I pull these plugs.



If you don't mind me asking which colder plugs did you put in? It's been suggested to me that I should put colder plugs in too.

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Postby shnazzle » Fri May 19, 2017 6:17 pm

NGK BKR6E is what I put in.
Stock is BKR5.

Who suggested going colder?
It's really not necessary on stock or even N/A modified.
Having said that, you're going turbo right? Then the BKR6E or BKR7E will be the way forward
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Re: My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Postby Redjay » Sun May 21, 2017 7:36 am

Shnazzle - My mechanic friend who's helping with the install made the recommendation. Hence he knows more about cars than I do, but not necessarily as much about turboing a '2' as some of the members on the board. I'll add the plugs to the shopping list.

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Postby shnazzle » Tue May 23, 2017 8:44 am

More to tinkering occurred before work. Uploaded the new map with 6% fueling at 0% throttle from 3k rpm onwards.
Then drove to work,warmed the car up had fun. No more slow-down when shifting gears :) Drives like an auto box now. Smooooooth power delivery
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Postby jvanzyl » Tue May 23, 2017 8:48 am

When you do your installation on mine - do I get to choose between "smooth" or "over run" fun?
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Postby shnazzle » Tue May 23, 2017 3:03 pm

You're getting the lumpy bumpy over fueling map
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Postby jvanzyl » Tue May 23, 2017 3:46 pm

shnazzle wrote:You're getting the lumpy bumpy over fueling map


LOL.. that reminds me... I need to find my "switch" that I bought for it...
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Postby shnazzle » Tue May 23, 2017 4:28 pm

jvanzyl wrote:
shnazzle wrote:You're getting the lumpy bumpy over fueling map


LOL.. that reminds me... I need to find my "switch" that I bought for it...

Ah yeah! Looking forward to seeing that
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Postby CrazySX » Tue May 23, 2017 5:29 pm

The only benefit of using a colder plug is to avoid pre-ignition. This would happen in a turbo engine or where the engine maybe running super lean? The plugs would get so hot they would glow red and cause detention where the fuel ignites due to the red heat of the plug (rather than spark) before it is supposed to. Don't really see the benefit in an N.A. motor. The difference is probably due to the fact the plugs are clean ;)

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Postby shnazzle » Tue May 23, 2017 5:45 pm

CrazySX wrote:The only benefit of using a colder plug is to avoid pre-ignition. This would happen in a turbo engine or where the engine maybe running super lean? The plugs would get so hot they would glow red and cause detention where the fuel ignites due to the red heat of the plug (rather than spark) before it is supposed to. Don't really see the benefit in an N.A. motor. The difference is probably due to the fact the plugs are clean ;)

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Indeed. I knew the theory. I had the plugs in house (ordered for Helen's car but ended up needing even colder plugs for hers) so figured give it a try :) I did a service on my car so figured a plug change, even if colder, wouldn't so any harm.
As I said,it ran smashing beforehand.
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Postby shnazzle » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:50 pm

Swapped back to a stock engine lid. Now to decide what spoiler I want.

Took a little video of the Hurricane sucking in air at idle. It's quite loud.

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Postby shnazzle » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:15 pm

Passed MOT. It was a proper clencher but somehow it got through emissions first time! No problem.

Last year it took two attempts, a bottle of Cataclean and a hard blast.
You'd think my knackered cat would be more knackered this year.

Anyhoo... Happy days.

Bit surprised that my rear Yokos are already down to 2mm.
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Postby Redjay » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:00 pm

congrats on the MOT. Sounds throaty.

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Postby shnazzle » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:18 pm

Redjay wrote:congrats on the MOT. Sounds throaty.

Thanks
It does indeed :)
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Postby manos3003 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Woohoo! Now time to see if mine passes in a month or so :D
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Postby shnazzle » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:57 pm

Mine didn't just pass emissions, it flew through like a VW!

It barely put out anything at all. Very very low on HC (11/200ppm) and CO (0.007/0.200%vol).

Lambda was a bit closer to the edge but still well within range (1.011/1.030)
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Postby manos3003 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:00 pm

shnazzle wrote:Mine didn't just pass emissions, it flew through like a VW!


That sent me on the floor! Well done! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby shnazzle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:47 am

Finished and tried out my shnazzle special engine head-steady. The results; rather phenomenal.
The cost; rather minimal.

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The design isn't flawless as the support bar I put in gets rather hot, which is having a not-so-good effect on the rubber vibration damper.
Nothing a spacer and some heat reflective tape won't solve
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Postby jvanzyl » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:20 am

when you say the results are phenomenal - can you elaborate? I wasn't aware that you had issues with your engine mounts in the first place, so I'd be interested to know what the difference is?
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Postby shnazzle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:56 am

I'll see if I can do a little pre/post video for you
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Postby manos3003 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:52 pm

Was this due to engine mount rubber perishing? There's a cure for that, I'll send you details :)
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Postby shnazzle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:54 pm

Engine mounts looked peachy when we had them off during the clutch job. They'll be a bit tired but they're fine
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Postby manos3003 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:57 pm

shnazzle wrote:Engine mounts looked peachy when we had them off during the clutch job. They'll be a bit tired but they're fine


So long as the rubber isn't perished you're ok. There's a rather clever cure the guys in Greece use, as their mounts perish faster due to hotter climate. They use windscreen resin to fill it up and it works a treat!
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Postby jvanzyl » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:33 pm

As in the stuff you'd fix a crack in the windshield with?
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Postby shnazzle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:50 pm

Haha. No. As in the stuff they use to stick it into place :)
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Postby manos3003 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:58 pm

Yes, the resin you use to stick it in place. Get a relatively hard grade, avoid soft grades :)
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